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إِنَّكُمْ وَمَا تَعْبُدُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ حَصَبُ جَهَنَّمَ أَنْتُمْ لَهَا وَارِدُونَ" الأنبياء: 98
"احْشُرُوا الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا وَأَزْوَاجَهُمْ وَمَا كَانُوا يَعْبُدُونَ ,(*) مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ فَاهْدُوهُمْ إِلَى صِرَاطِ الْجَحِيمِ"
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muhmed terror head wrote:
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إthe 1st is al anbya 98
the 2nd is safat 23:22
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muhmed terror head wrote:
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this verse of quran say that he(ALLAH) will punish the oppstils and what THAY WORSHIP in hell,now this is verry strange how would allah put your idols in hell,?
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muhmed terror head wrote:
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إ the moon ,the sun the thunder,the birds ,the sky,the cows,...etc.
ok we are responsible but what did the cow,camel ,dogs fault if i worsheped them..!
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muhmed terror head wrote:
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إ and the sun how do u through the sun in hell its almost the same for it.
hope you realy understand arabic then its so easy to just read that verse of quran and know what i mean.
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# 2 more verses relevant to the blokes' claims:
أَلَمْ أَعْهَدْ إِلَيْكُمْ يَبَنِي ءادَمَ أَنْ لَا تَعْبُدُوا الشَّيْطَنَ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُبِينٌ 36:60
وَأَنْ اعْبُدُونِي هَذَا صِرَطٌ مُسْتَقِيمٌ 36:61
36:60 Alam aAAhad ilaykum ya banee adama an la taAAbudoo alshshaytana innahu lakum AAaduwwun mubeenun
36:61 Waani oAAbudoonee hatha siratun mustaqeemun
36:60 Did I not covenant with you, O Children of Adam, that you shall not worship the devil? That he is your most ardent enemy?
36:61 But that ye worship Me? That was the right path.
# i think these verses can help us regarding "maa taa'budun" ( 21:98 ) and "maa kaanu taa'budun" (37:22)!
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ahmedbahgat wrote:
Thank you bro
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hajirffi wrote:
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You have some valid points but you have gone too far in some of your beliefs.
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hajirffi wrote:
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The phrase 'Mohammad Rasulullah' has appeared in Quran.
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hajirffi wrote:
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By saying the shahadah we testify to the unity of God and that Mohammad is his messenger.
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hajirffi wrote:
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There is nothing shirkful about this.
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hajirffi wrote:
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The shirk comes in when people go too far in praising Mohammad SAW and calling upon him for help.
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hajirffi wrote:
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Following his lifestyle is a command in Quran since Quran says that Mohammad SAW is 'oswatun hasanah' i.e. the best example for us to follow.
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hajirffi wrote:
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Love of the prophet is an essential part of Islam.
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hajirffi wrote:
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You are not truely a muslim until you love Mohammad SAW
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hajirffi wrote:
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more than yourself and your parents and your children.
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hajirffi wrote:
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He went through tremendous hardship to deliver the message of Islam and he was the one who changed the entire world history for many centuries to come and still his enemies are afraid of his name and his memory and his message.
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hajirffi wrote:
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That's why we have this website... that's why millions of dollars are spent throughout the world to defame him. But his love has increased in the hearts of believers and his name will always shine in human history.
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Halid wrote:
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Listen to me fellow brother.
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Halid wrote:
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There is adilla-i shar-iyya: proof, evidence or source of sharia/deen are:
1. Quran
2. Sunnah
3. Ijma
4. Kiyas
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So, not all, but authentic hadith CANNOT be rejected .
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piscohot was right that we learn details about prayer from Messenger, be piece on him. We learn so many things from Him, alone, such as prohibition of donkey meat, performing prayer, performing hajj etc.. By authentic hadith we mean a firm and truthful chain, called "sanad".
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Halid wrote:
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Proof of obeying Messenger, and hence HIS sayings is very obvious throughout Qur'an. Just some:
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53:3 Nor does he speak out of desire.
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5:92 And obey Allah and obey the messenger and be cautious; but if you turn back, then know that only a clear deliverance of the message is (incumbent) on Our messenger.
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5:31 Say: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
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5:32 Say: Obey Allah and the Messenger; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers.
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Halid wrote:
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Fair to ask you, that since Qur'an addresses all the times, then it follows that those verses are not expired (nor mansuh nor nasuh), as you might mistakenly think.
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i warn all Muslim brothers here that; when discussing things with others, do not reject anything from your deen, be it ahkam or faith.
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how old are you, do you mind if I ask?
- Tue 17 Aug, 2010 6:37 pm
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Salam all
Do you want to see the filthy Mushrikoon in action? Here is one for you from CNN:
Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair
<i>By the CNN Wire Staff
August 16, 2010 -- Updated 1555 GMT (2355 HKT)</i>
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Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) �?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? The Taliban stoned to death a man and a woman in northern Afghanistan for allegedly having an affair, officials said Monday.
The stoning took place Sunday in Dasht-e-Archi district, in the village of Mullah Qali -- a village dominated by the Taliban in Kunduz province.
The pair was accused of having an illicit sexual relationship, a spokesman for the Kunduz governor said.
The woman was about 20 years old and the man was about 27, said Mohammed Ayuob, district governor of Amam Sahib, which is also in Kunduz province.
The woman was engaged, and the man was married to another woman. The two had been held by the Taliban for about a week, Ayuob said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/08/16/afghanistan.stoning.death/index.html?hpt=T2#fbid=WvX7h-1cayC&wom=false
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Ahmed says:
What a filthy retarded bunch of confused Muslims bound to hell. We all know well that stoning the adulterers is not ordained upon the Muslims, rather the following rule of Allah:
الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِي فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وَاحِدٍ مِنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ ۖ وَلَا تَأْخُذْكُمْ بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ۖ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَائِفَةٌ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ (2)
The adulteress and adulterer, lash each of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the last day. And let their torture be witnessed by a group of the believers.
<Al Quran ; 24:2>
Yet, the filthy Mushrikoon don't want to listen to the judgement of Allah, in fact they want to apply what the Jews should apply for such crime of adultery.
You can actually see clearly the confusion of such bunch of Mushrik Muslims called Taliban, the adulteress WAS NOT MARRIED, rather ENGAGED, yet the Mushrikoon stoned her. How confused they are.
CERTAINLY ANY ENGAGED WOMAN CANNOT BE CONSIDERED MARRIED. Therefore, if those bunch of filthy and mushrik Taliban want to apply their shirk, they should have only stoned the male adulterer who was married, while for the adulteress who was only engaged, she should have been lashed with a hundred lashes.
Again and again and again, such ruling of stoning the married adulterers is not and cannot exist in Islam for the following simple fact (which I will keep repeating until those filthy and confused Mushrikoon come with a logical answer):
Allah told us that the punishment for any MARRIED woman from among Ma Malakat Aymanena, who commits adultery, should be HALF the punishment of a married free women:
وَمَن لَّمْ يَسْتَطِعْ مِنكُمْ طَوْلاً أَن يَنكِحَ الْمُحْصَنَاتِ الْمُؤْمِنَاتِ فَمِن مِّا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُم مِّن فَتَيَاتِكُمُ الْمُؤْمِنَاتِ وَاللّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِإِيمَانِكُمْ بَعْضُكُم مِّن بَعْضٍ فَانكِحُوهُنَّ بِإِذْنِ أَهْلِهِنَّ وَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ مُحْصَنَاتٍ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحَاتٍ وَلاَ مُتَّخِذَاتِ أَخْدَانٍ فَإِذَا أُحْصِنَّ فَإِنْ أَتَيْنَ بِفَاحِشَةٍ فَعَلَيْهِنَّ نِصْفُ مَا عَلَى الْمُحْصَنَاتِ مِنَ الْعَذَابِ ذَلِكَ لِمَنْ خَشِيَ الْعَنَتَ مِنْكُمْ وَأَن تَصْبِرُواْ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ وَاللّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ (25)
And whoever among you cannot afford to marry the protected and believing women, then (marry) of those whom your oaths possess from among your believing young women. And Allah is most Knowing of your oaths between yourselves; so marry them with the permission of their families, and give them their rewards lawfully if they seek protection (for themselves) not fornicating or receiving paramours. And if they protect themselves (through marriage) and commit an indecency, then upon them is half the torture which should be upon the protected women. That is for one who fears affliction from among you. And if you are patient, it is better for you. And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
<Al Quran ; 4:25>
-> See, you filthy retarded confused Mushrikoon:
فَإِذَا أُحْصِنَّ فَإِنْ أَتَيْنَ بِفَاحِشَةٍ فَعَلَيْهِنَّ نِصْفُ مَا عَلَى الْمُحْصَنَاتِ مِنَ الْعَذَابِ , i.e.:
And if they protect themselves (through marriage) and commit an indecency, then upon them is half the torture which should be upon the protected women.
-> So tell me, you filthy and retarded bunch of confused freaks:
WHAT IS HALF THE PUNISHMENT OF STONING TO DEATH?
The filthy Mushrikoon will never find an answer for such simple question. Indeed, they are:
صُمٌّ بُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لاَ يَرْجِعُونَ (18)
Deaf, mute, blind, so they will not return.
<Al Quran ; 2:18>
-> You know what, 2:18 above is talking about those who call themselves Muslims and claim to believe in Allah and the last day, see:
2:8 ومن الناس من يقول امنا بالله وباليوم الاخر وما هم بمؤمنين
2:9 يخادعون الله والذين امنوا وما يخدعون الا انفسهم وما يشعرون
2:10 في قلوبهم مرض فزادهم الله مرضا ولهم عذاب اليم بما كانوا يكذبون
2:11 واذا قيل لهم لا تفسدوا في الارض قالوا انما نحن مصلحون
2:12 الا انهم هم المفسدون ولكن لا يشعرون
2:13 واذا قيل لهم امنوا كما امن الناس قالوا انؤمن كما امن السفهاء الا انهم هم السفهاء ولكن لا يعلمون
2:14 واذا لقوا الذين امنوا قالوا امنا واذا خلوا الى شياطينهم قالوا انا معكم انما نحن مستهزؤون
2:15 الله يستهزىء بهم ويمدهم في طغيانهم يعمهون
2:16 اولئك الذين اشتروا الضلاله بالهدى فما ربحت تجارتهم وما كانوا مهتدين
2:17 مثلهم كمثل الذي استوقد نارا فلما اضاءت ما حوله ذهب الله بنورهم وتركهم في ظلمات لا يبصرون
2:18 صم بكم عمي فهم لا يرجعون
2:19 او كصيب من السماء فيه ظلمات ورعد وبرق يجعلون اصابعهم في اذانهم من الصواعق حذر الموت والله محيط بالكافرين
2:20 يكاد البرق يخطف ابصارهم كلما اضاء لهم مشوا فيه واذا اظلم عليهم قاموا ولو شاء الله لذهب بسمعهم وابصارهم ان الله على كل شيء قدير
2:8 And among the people are those who say: We have believed in Allah and in the last day, while they are not believers.
2:9 They deceive Allah and those who have believed, but they do not deceive except themselves, and they do not perceive.
2:10 In their hearts is a disease, so Allah increased them in disease; and for them is a painful torture because they used to lie.
2:11 And when it is said to them: Do not make mischief in the land, they say: We are only ones who amend.
2:12 Unquestionably, it is them who are the mischief-makers but they do not perceive.
2:13 And when it is said to them: Believe as the people have believed, they say: Should we believe as the foolish have believed? Unquestionably, it is them who are the the foolish but they do not know.
2:14 And when they meet those who have believed, they say: We believed; and when they are alone with their devils, they say: Indeed, we are with you, we were only mocking (them).
2:15 Allah mocks them, and prolongs them in their unjust while they wander blindly.
2:16 Those are the ones who bought misguidance instead of guidance, so their trade will never profit, nor were they guided.
2:17 Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, and when it illuminated what is around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness so they could not see.
2:18 Deaf, mute, blind, so they will not return.
2:19 Or it is like a rain-laden cloud from the sky, within which is darkness and thunder and lightning, they put their fingers in their ears to keep out the thunderclap in dread of death. And Allah is encompassing the unbelievers.
2:20 The lightning almost snatches away their sight; whenever it illuminates for them, they walk therein, but when darkness comes upon them, they stand. And had Allah willed, He could have taken away their hearing and their visions; indeed, Allah is over everything Capable.
<Al Quran ; 2:8-20>
-> Just look at the woman and children in the photo above, watching the place of stoning, and you should comprehend that these people cannot be Muslims. Indeed, they cannot be Muslims, they are only deceiving Allah and those who believed, but they only deceive themselves while they don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t know. Consequently I will have no mercy for such retarded and filthy Mushrikoon who invented a man made religion disguised under the religion which Allah sent to us, Islam
Salam
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