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ahmedbahgat wrote:
ok bro i will take it bit by bit because this is a very tough subject
i was told by a knwledgeabla man the the soul ca't be in the body in two 2 cases:
1) during sleep
2) massive damage to the body like a car accident for example
of course both controlled by Allah, he told us about the first case in the Quran as you know
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not sure what do you mean by inside the wombs
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By chance are you referring to a verse in the Quran where Allaah through an angel blows the spirit inside the womb.
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Salam brother,
Long time no see Im very busy nowadays with work, but inshallah soon ill be back fulltime. Hmmm! life, death. death, life. interesting. This subject always fasinate me.
## looks like the soul is placed in a body whilst it (the body) is still in the womb..or does it?
Appearanty yes because the baby in the body is alive, so living humans do have soul. If the baby in womb is sleeping then their is no soul, as bro AB mentioned above. (Can this hv any connection to a verse which says 'we dont remember our 1st birth' ?)
Anyway at what point in womb body gets soul? Cant sperm be considerd alive in tht manner?
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Im very busy nowadays with work,
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but inshallah soon ill be back fulltime.
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Hmmm! life, death. death, life. interesting. This subject always fasinate me.
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Appearanty yes because the baby in the body is alive, so living humans do have soul.
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If the baby in womb is sleeping then their is no soul, as bro AB mentioned above.
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(Can this hv any connection to a verse which says 'we dont remember our 1st birth' ?)
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Anyway at what point in womb body gets soul? Cant sperm be considerd alive in tht manner?
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ahmedbahgat wrote:
There is a few verses in the Quran that describes the phases of the creation of humans in the wombs, after going through the phases "like bones then the flesh, etc, it says at the end as far as I remember "Thumma Jaalnah Khalqan Akhr", this may be taken as the moment that the soul is inserted in the body,
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23: 14 then did we create the zygote (into) an embryo, then did we create the embryo (into) foetus, then did we create the foetus (into) bones, then did we dress the bones (with) flesh, then did we generate/spawn it (into) remaining creation, fatabarakaAllahu ahsanu alkhaliqeena
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# okay...major correction:
## the foetal period commences at the end of the eight week, and the bones and the muscles are developed before the commencement of the foetal period - so my translating "almughdata" as foetus, given that the foetal period is understood as beginning after the development of bones and muscles, is mistaken!
the process by which the embryo (alaq) further develops is called tissue differentiation, and it probably is what is referred to as "almughdata." for lack of an alternative, i will use "differeniated tissues"
## this is how it would read:
23: 14 then did we create the zygote (into) an embryo, then did we create the embryo (into) differentiated tissues , then did we create the differentiated tissues (into) bones, then did we dress the bones (with) flesh, then did we generate/spawn it (into) remaining creation, fatabarakaAllahu ahsanu alkhaliqeena
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